Lyfe Tea… another day another weight loss scam

Important note: If you’ve been here previously you might notice I’ve removed a paragraph about a similarly named product which I’d mistakenly believed to be from the same people. I should have done my homework a little better and not posted inaccurate information.

Who’d have thought someone in the fitness and weight loss industry would ever post inaccurate information though? Ooh I bet that’s never happened before.

Bottom line; you lose weight through consuming an appropriate amount, and you get into great shape by training productively. ALL of these “detox” weight loss products are a crock.

For the science on the matter, there is a great entry from a highly qualified source, here: The Ultimate Detox: Your Kidneys.

Anyway… the point is, see below.

Note that this isn’t a client of mine, I’m just sharing the story. Unlike certain other people, I do not fraudulently claim credit for other people’s hard work. However, a few of my clients have turned up on similar product pages in the past, so it pisses me off.

reblogged from  fit-personality

fit-personality:

PLEASE READ.

Hey y’all. So for the 3rd time this month, a company has taken a progress photo of me and used it to promote their weight loss products. If you all see my results on ANY company website, know that it is a scam.

I don’t promote any companies right now and if I do in the future, you will be the first to know!

Once again, I am just annoyed that my hard work is being put down by a company saying all I did was use their product, when in reality, I have been busting ass at the gym everyday.

Seriously, these results don’t come from diet companies and pills, it comes from hard work and a healthy lifestyle! Thank you (again).

 Now on the subject of any form of detox, one of my respected industry colleagues was kind enough to provide the following resources for your perusal.

“Toxin” is classic pseudoscience terminology.” –Ben Goldacre, M.D.

“…these detox programs amount to a large quantity of excrement, both literally and figuratively.” –Peter Pressman, M.D.”
http://www.skepdic.com/detox.html

“What the marketers of detox products have done is made the term “detox” meaningless – actually the term now is nothing but a red flag for snake oil.”
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/the-detox-scam/

“The idea that we need to follow a special diet to help our body eliminate toxins is not supported by medical science. Healthy adults have a wonderful system for removal of waste products and toxins from the body. Our lungs, kidneys, liver, gastrointestinal tract and immune system are all primed to remove or neutralise toxic substances within hours of eating them.”
http://theconversation.com/mondays-medical-myth-detox…

” The investigators concluded that there are no methodologically rigorous controlled trials of colonic cleansing to support the practice for general health promotion. Conversely, there are multiple case reports and case series that describe the adverse effects of colonic cleansing. The practice of colonic cleansing to improve or promote general health is not supported in the published literature and cannot be recommended at this time.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19724266

“If we are to believe the “detox” cult, our bodies are a pestilent sea of toxins, arising both from internal sources (the colon being but one example) and external sources. That’s why it’s useful to divide our “toxic exposure” from an alt-med perspective into two general kinds: External and internal, the latter of which is often referred to as “autointoxication.” External toxins are easy to understand and consist of pretty much anything that is viewed as toxic that enters the body from the environment.”

“Whatever the reason for the resurgence of belief in various “detox” modalities, one thing’s for sure. Unnamed, unknown, undefined “toxins” are the new evil humors and miasmas, and detoxification is the newest fashionable form of ritual purification.”
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/fashionable-toxins/

“Any product or service with the words “detox” or “cleanse” in the name is only truly effective at cleansing your wallet of cash. Alternative medicine’s ideas of detoxification and cleansing have no basis in reality. There’s no published evidence to suggest that detox treatments, kits or rituals have any effect on our body’s ability to eliminate waste products effectively.”
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-detox-scam-how…/

“So does detox work? If it helps us realise that having a healthy lifestyle all the time is an attainable goal, then yes. But if it makes us think healthy living is like purgatory, something to be ventured into very occasionally, and with much trepidation and forward planning, then the answer is clearly no. And is it an intellectually dishonest scam? Probably. Although it might be gentler to think of it as a voluntary, self-administered tax on scientific illiteracy and decadence.”
http://www.theguardian.com/befit/story/0,,1379231,00.html

http://www.ideafit.com/fitne…/detox-diets-myths-vs-reality

“Autointoxication is an ancient theory based on the belief that intestinal waste products can poison the body and are a major contributor to many, if not all, diseases. In the 19th century, it was the ruling doctrine of medicine and led “colonic quackery” in various guises. By the turn of the century, it had received some apparent backing from science. When it became clear that the scientific rationale was wrong and colonic irrigation was not merely useless but potentially dangerous, it was exposed as quackery and subsequently went into a decline. Today we are witnessing a resurgence of colonic irrigation based on little less than the old bogus claims and the impressive power of vested interests. Even today’s experts on colonic irrigation can only provide theories and anecdotes in its support. It seems, therefore, that ignorance is celebrating a triumph over science.”

Ref.:
Ernst E. Colonic irrigation and the theory of autointoxication: a triumph of ignorance over science. J Clin Gastroenterol. 1997 Jun;24(4):196-8.

“The idea that putrefaction of the stools causes disease, i.e., intestinal autointoxication, originated with physicians in ancient Egypt. They believed that a putrefactive principle associated with feces was absorbed in to the general circulation, where it acted to produce fever and pus. This description of the materia peccans represented the earliest forerunner of our present notion of endotoxin and its effect. The ancient Greeks extended the concept of putrefaction to involve not only the residues of food, but also those of bile, phlegm, and blood, incorporating it into their humoral theory of disease. During the 19th century, the early biochemical and bacteriologic studies lent credence to the idea of ptomaine poisoning–that degradation of protein in the colon by anerobic bacteria generated toxic amines. Among the leading proponents of autointoxication was Metchnikoff, who hypothesized that intestinal toxins shortened lifespan. The toxic process, however, was reversed by the consumption of lactic acid-producing bacteria that changed the colonic microflora and prevented proteolysis. The next logical step in treatment followed in the early 20th century when surgeons, chief among them Sir W. Arbuthnot Lane, performed colectomy to cure intestinal autointoxication. By the 1920s, the medical doctrine fell into disrepute as scientific advanced failed to give support. However, the idea persists in the public mind, probably as an extension of the childhood habit of toilet training.”

Ref.:
Chen TS, Chen PS. Intestinal autointoxication: a medical leitmotif. J Clin Gastroenterol. 1989 Aug;11(4):434-41.

“It’s an irrational concept, yet an intriguing idea, that modern life so fills us with poisons from polluted air and food additives that we need to be periodically “cleaned out” (“detoxified”). Never mind that natural chemicals in our foods are thousands of times more potent than additives, or that most Americans are healthier, live longer, and can choose from the most healthful food supply ever available. — Frances M. Berg, M.S.

Real detoxification of foreign substances takes place in the liver, which modifies their chemical structure so they can be excreted by the kidneys which filter them from the blood into the urine. –Stephen Barrett, M.D.

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Author: davehpt

I'm DaveHPT, Maybe you've heard of me? Musician, rock star and recording artist. Published author. Former security industry professional. Personal Trainer and Weight Management Architect Of Awesomeness. Problem Solver.

10 thoughts on “Lyfe Tea… another day another weight loss scam”

  1. WOW! You are really showing how dumb you are. Skinny Me Tea and Lyfe Tea are two totally different companies and this post you have up doesn’t even work. You are making some pretty big claims to what make yourself look better. Really doubt you are any good at personal training now that I read this.

    1. Shut up Ashley you’re the one who’s dumb!
      No I’m just kidding, on further investigation you seem to be correct.
      Readers please note that these are two separate companies… one who’s product has resulted in hospitalisation, and another who promotes by stealing photos from people who’ve never used their product. Both scumbags IMO.

      Also it looks like the original post has been removed but you can see it reblogged here. When posts go viral on tumblr it can get annoying with all the notifications, so I’d guess that’s why the original one has been deleted.

  2. I must say that davehpt is quite the professional, and feels like he can tell people to “shut up” are we in 3rd grade here? Any how to the point, Lyfe Tea LLC is not associated with Skinny Me Tea in any capacity. Lyfe Tea LLC did erroneously post a pic of a person who was not a client or customer on their instagram page, and once Lyfe Tea LLC was notified the pic was removed immediately. Please make no mistake, the pic may not have been a customer of Lyfe Tea LLC’s at that time, but it certainly looks like the results of many of our clients. To see the true results provided by Lyfe Tea LLC’s products, combined with a healthy lifestyle please visit www lyfetea com, or visit our instagram page at instagram@lyfe_tea for more information. We have thousands of pleased clients, as well as many repeat clients. Our website is www lyfetea com. We have asked davehpt repeatedly to takedown this defamatory and incorrect post with no resolution other than admitting that we are not associated with Skinny Me Tea.

    How much does davehpt charge for “online personal training” ? How does a person train somebody online? Interesting…

    Thank you and please visit www lyfetea com for a very amazing product!!

    Lyfe Tea LLC

    1. Dear Snake Oil Peddlar.
      You are a liar and a fraud. You have not asked me “repeatedly” to do anything. You’ve posted this comment, sent me one email pretending to be a potential customer looking for information on lyfetea, and one request to address my mistake in the original version of this post… all within about 5 minutes of each other. I’ve now corrected my error as per your reasonable request.

      I note your use of the words “at that time” as if to imply that the young lady who’s photo your marketers have used fraudulently may have been a customer / using your products at another time. I have invited her to comment here to clarify this matter.

      As to your question about how much i charge, people don’t have to pay me anything. This is a free program designed to educate and empower, and it has helped countless peope to lose weight without starving themselves, succumbing to fear mongering about different food choices or scam products. If people do decide that they’d like to work with me in a more personal (as much as is possible via the internet) and ongoing basis they have the option to do so, but there’s enough in the free program for anyone to achieve their goal through sensible and healthy means.

  3. Free? Number one, Please do research before continuing to post defamatory information. Number two, This is what I found when I wanted to continue on your page once I registered. It does not appear to be free as you state above.

    [I edited out a cut n paste of some pricing info from my newsletter that this creep just signed up to.]

  4. Here’s what you’ll learn in this free sneak preview of my Online Coaching system.
    How to set your custom goals and settings in the MyFitnessPal app.
    How to meet your requirements with flexible fueling.
    Suggestions on how to plan tomorrow’s meals in advance to ensure success.
    And then some.

    [edited out the pricing info again, sign up for my newsletter if you want it.]

    1. God help me is this cunt actually for real?

      As I said above, if people choose to work with me on an ongoing basis with a more fine tuned program they may do so and it aint cheap because I’m fucking awesome at what I do. However there is an entirely FREE no strings attached, no gimmicks and no bullshit education and exercise program right here on this site that they don’t even have to sign up for that will (and already has in more cases than I could count) give them everything they need.

      Good job with the stalking though. Good job with pulling the moral superiority card too on the basis that I made an (albeit careless, I admit) human error in attaching a link to a news story about a different company here. Clearly that’s far worse than actually downloading someone’s transformation photo, dropping some text over it and uploading it to your instagram claiming it was one of your clients… which you claim to have done “erronously” as if it just happened with an accidental slip of the finger.

  5. Thank you. I even know how to use your awesome and free “myfitnesspal” app can be downloaded by anyone with out your guidance. And the only thing you deleted was the marketing that is on your site along with your pricing. And yes, I take this matter very seriously as my potential clients still to this day are under the impression that we are a scam- do you honestly think that we would have any success by being “Snake Oil” peddlers? Do you think we portray magic in a bottle? What you call stalking is actually keeping track of media in regard to my company’s interests. And to clarify the “repeated” take down requests- what do you think that first request was that was sent months ago professionally asking you to remove or retract the fact that we are not associated with Skinny Me Tea in any capacity? That was a “take down” request, so I think that means that we have had to ask you more than once, which if I am correct would mean that we had to REPEAT the request, am I correct genius?

    I don’t doubt that you are good at what you do- but you need to focus on what you do in my opinion and stick with what you are good at., I would also consider before blogging about a company maybe research all of their products instead of giving the impression that “DETOX” is all we know and promote for our clients and customers. Once again feel free to visit our website at www lyfetea com and maybe you will consider purchasing some of our available products..

    1. Alright look. If you actually sent something months ago then it has slipped through the cracks and I never received / never saw it. If you’re referring to the posted comment above from Ashley, then you can see immediately I realised my mistake and advised my readers to “be aware these are two seperate companies”. In hindsight I should have cut n pasted the stuff about skinnyme to a new post at the time but I thought the response to the comment was sufficient.

      As to the rest though… there is page upon page of scientific literature posted above that shows that detoxes are in fact snake oil. Your customers lose weight because they follow the meal plan you give them which creates a calorific deficit. Other than the unfortunate misunderstanding where I associated you with the other product, you seem to feel hard done by as your ethics are being questioned… on the basis that I’ve reposted a complaint from someone who’s photo you’ve stolen and fraudulantly claimed credit for her transformation? She didn’t use your product. As I say above, I’ve seen my own clients turn up on other people’s website as well, and it is not acceptable. Stretching the truth a little to imply that people are losing weight for reasons other than more appropriate calorific intake is one thing but to use a transformation of someone who’s never used the product… honestly how do you even think this is defensible at all?

  6. Ok, you look. The email that you claim to have missed was sent from legal@lyfetea.com, had nothing to do with any post other than your false post. We are given hundreds of before/after pics and as you put it a “Human Error” was made and research should have been done before the mistake was made.

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